Your Honour,
The event was organised to start at 1pm according to the witnesses.
The event was set for 1pm for call to prayer, which was to last 3 minutes and the sermon would start at 1:03pm and last for 15 – 20 minutes until the Jummar Prayer was to begin which Mr El Sayed admitted and Ms Bux Confirmed. There was no advertisement for a Sunna Prayer that day at all according to the evidence supplied by the prosecution.
The incident occurred before 1pm according to the 2 Police statements .
Ayesha Bux claims in her statement the incident started at 12:40pm but was a little unsure under cross examination. Ramzi Elsayed claimed in his statement it was 1pm but under cross examination he was unsure; he said it could have been 3 minutes before or 3 minutes after.
We know the incident occurred before 1pm as the call to prayer had not started.
The only person the prosecution produced who alleges they were praying at the time was Ramzi Elsayed. Ramszi Elsayed claimed the Sunna Prayer was an individual prayer and was different to a congregational prayer. Elsayed also stated under cross examination he was offended but not disturbed. Elsayaed also claimed under cross examination the sunna prayer was an Optional Individual prayer which I believe does not constitute group of persons or congregation. Elsayed also stated a congregational prayer has to be lead by an imam which Mr Elsayed said he was not. From memory in Mr Elsayed’s Testimony he stated that the Sunna doesn’t have a congregation and is done multiple times a day and is separate from the Jummah Prayer.
Mr Elsayed also claimed that the call to prayer is the commencement of the religious event. Mr Elsayed admitted there was no call to prayer before the Sunna Prayer.
Ayesha Bux stated under cross examination she was waiting for the prayer to start at the time of the incident. She also contradicted Elsayed statements by falsely claiming he was an imam at the time.
Ayesha Bux further states that she does something in her mind all day (forgive me your honour as I don’t recall the word exactly but I believe it was chanting) Ayesha goes on to state that nothing disturbs her when doing the chant. Ms Ayesha also claimed I didn’t disturb her at the time of the incident as she was doing that same chant. Ms Bux was pressed on her inconsistent statements concerning what she was doing at the time of the incident. In her statement she claimed to be placing mats and getting the area ready but under cross examination she claims she was chanting in her mind which is rather odd and also in my opinion doesn’t constitute group of persons worshiping as a congregation.
The Jumma Prayer which was the congregational prayer started when it should have, so did the Call to prayer and sermon which all occurred when I wasn’t present according to Mr Elsayed. This demonstrates that my actions had no affect on the Jumma Worship. It also demonstrates that the alleged disturbance didn’t disturb the attendees as the show went on immediately after as you could hear the loud call to prayer while I was at the bottom of the stairs.
It’s also important to note after the incident if you compare the video of the Jummar prayer to the alleged Sunna prayer the contrast is obvious. There were hundreds of more people at the Jummar Prayer and everybody is involved, hence congregation. Contrast that with the alleged individual Sunna prayer prior to 1pm.
The prosecution haven’t produced any complainants of Disturbing Religious Worship. If Disturbing Religious Worship occurred like the Prosecution claim there should be dozens of witnesses who have complained. The prosecution only produced 2 witnesses who ultimately failed to make an admission of being disturbed, offended maybe - but not disturbed. The evidence produced shows that at the time of the incident it was a situation where there was an individual prayer which is the opposite meaning of congregation.
The event was organised to start at 1pm according to the witnesses.
The event was set for 1pm for call to prayer, which was to last 3 minutes and the sermon would start at 1:03pm and last for 15 – 20 minutes until the Jummar Prayer was to begin which Mr El Sayed admitted and Ms Bux Confirmed. There was no advertisement for a Sunna Prayer that day at all according to the evidence supplied by the prosecution.
The incident occurred before 1pm according to the 2 Police statements .
Ayesha Bux claims in her statement the incident started at 12:40pm but was a little unsure under cross examination. Ramzi Elsayed claimed in his statement it was 1pm but under cross examination he was unsure; he said it could have been 3 minutes before or 3 minutes after.
We know the incident occurred before 1pm as the call to prayer had not started.
The only person the prosecution produced who alleges they were praying at the time was Ramzi Elsayed. Ramszi Elsayed claimed the Sunna Prayer was an individual prayer and was different to a congregational prayer. Elsayed also stated under cross examination he was offended but not disturbed. Elsayaed also claimed under cross examination the sunna prayer was an Optional Individual prayer which I believe does not constitute group of persons or congregation. Elsayed also stated a congregational prayer has to be lead by an imam which Mr Elsayed said he was not. From memory in Mr Elsayed’s Testimony he stated that the Sunna doesn’t have a congregation and is done multiple times a day and is separate from the Jummah Prayer.
Mr Elsayed also claimed that the call to prayer is the commencement of the religious event. Mr Elsayed admitted there was no call to prayer before the Sunna Prayer.
Ayesha Bux stated under cross examination she was waiting for the prayer to start at the time of the incident. She also contradicted Elsayed statements by falsely claiming he was an imam at the time.
Ayesha Bux further states that she does something in her mind all day (forgive me your honour as I don’t recall the word exactly but I believe it was chanting) Ayesha goes on to state that nothing disturbs her when doing the chant. Ms Ayesha also claimed I didn’t disturb her at the time of the incident as she was doing that same chant. Ms Bux was pressed on her inconsistent statements concerning what she was doing at the time of the incident. In her statement she claimed to be placing mats and getting the area ready but under cross examination she claims she was chanting in her mind which is rather odd and also in my opinion doesn’t constitute group of persons worshiping as a congregation.
The Jumma Prayer which was the congregational prayer started when it should have, so did the Call to prayer and sermon which all occurred when I wasn’t present according to Mr Elsayed. This demonstrates that my actions had no affect on the Jumma Worship. It also demonstrates that the alleged disturbance didn’t disturb the attendees as the show went on immediately after as you could hear the loud call to prayer while I was at the bottom of the stairs.
It’s also important to note after the incident if you compare the video of the Jummar prayer to the alleged Sunna prayer the contrast is obvious. There were hundreds of more people at the Jummar Prayer and everybody is involved, hence congregation. Contrast that with the alleged individual Sunna prayer prior to 1pm.
The prosecution haven’t produced any complainants of Disturbing Religious Worship. If Disturbing Religious Worship occurred like the Prosecution claim there should be dozens of witnesses who have complained. The prosecution only produced 2 witnesses who ultimately failed to make an admission of being disturbed, offended maybe - but not disturbed. The evidence produced shows that at the time of the incident it was a situation where there was an individual prayer which is the opposite meaning of congregation.