DId a looooong one with Alp and Jack from Defiant back in Istanbul. We went through a lot of things on lobsterdao ethics and alignmeeeent - to different things like wallets and adoption mental gymnastics - to Gearbox vision and DeFi. Check it out! It has timestamps, so you can click around.

📹 https://youtu.be/5m2lzTj-PVk?si=OqU97i-wL7RZN2qa
CT: https://x.com/DefiantNews/status/1730588429006627056

PS: my face looks like a hamster, was already getting sick and swollen, I swear I don’t eat that much.