she’s been tricked. Since things are dire, he decides not to kill her (so benevolent, right?) but in order for him to let her live, she can’t use any of her cleric powers. This crushes Mary’s spirit, as she’s been looking forward to this multiclass for some time, and now she can’t do anything with it under threat of her character being killed by a party member.
Samantha had some conversations with people out of game, as she felt things were getting out of hand, and proposed we have a “session zero” to discuss issues, which at this point, is much needed. The next session starts, and we end up having our “session zero”, where we discuss our lines in the sand and what we’d like to see change. Among the things that are brought up are party members threatening to kill other party members (let alone ACTUALLY killing them), not making decisions that could affect the whole party without consulting them, and not stomping on other people’s RP and intentionally or unintentionally railroading them.
After this conversation, Mike realizes he’s being “that guy,” and tells Simon he doesn’t want to go through with what they’ve planned. Simon tells him “no, we’ll still do it,” and then starts the session having Mike command his summoned dire wolf to drag Mary off while she’s asleep and tear her to shreds. Mary and Mike then end up having a conversation with several gods, where Mike’s god, Tyr, yells at him for being a dick. That’s all the consequence he gets for killing a party member. After the talk with the gods, Mary chooses to follow Lurue, as now Simon has seemingly forgotten that she wanted to follow Odin. They wake up and all is well, except for the fact that like I said before, we all roleplay pretty hard and now Mary’s character has PTSD from being literally torn to shreds at the hands of her companion’s self-righteous idealism. At no point did Mike OR Simon include her in discussions of what they wanted to do to “save” her character, and it was pretty obvious after it was all said and done that Mary was incredibly upset about the entire situation.
Here’s all of the reasons I think this is as bad as it is:
1: Simon used meta knowledge to make an in-game deity appear in a form they otherwise never would have presented themselves in, due to the fact that they have NO knowledge whatsoever of Mary’s specific wants. Even if Beshaba could read minds, Mary’s character would have no knowledge of Odin, what he would look like, or black birds are his symbol.
2: Mike refused to let Mary play her character the way she wanted to under threat of her character’s death.
3: Simon completely ignored the session zero conversation our group had and forced Mike to kill Mary’s character, even though Mike made it clear he didn’t want to do that anymore.
4: At no point Simon and Mike invite Mary in on the conversation to even just get her opinion on what they were going to do to “solve” her getting tricked into worshipping a CE god.
5: There were no negative repercussions for Mike’s character having killed another PC. The only person who was negatively effected by this incident was Mary and her character.
TLDR:
The GM used meta knowledge to trick our bard into worshipping a CE god for her cleric multiclass, then forced our LG paladin to have his animal companion drag her out into the woods while she was asleep and literally tear her to shreds.
This is one of a few real nightmare stories I have from this one campaign. This one campaign that I’m still a part of, but constantly debate leaving. This story is definitely the worst of them, but I’ll post the rest here eventually! Slight spoiler: all of the bad stories I have are stories where Mary ends up being the one to get fucked over by Simon or other players at the table.
Edit: took out double post.
https://redd.it/epm8q9
@r_dndgreentext
Samantha had some conversations with people out of game, as she felt things were getting out of hand, and proposed we have a “session zero” to discuss issues, which at this point, is much needed. The next session starts, and we end up having our “session zero”, where we discuss our lines in the sand and what we’d like to see change. Among the things that are brought up are party members threatening to kill other party members (let alone ACTUALLY killing them), not making decisions that could affect the whole party without consulting them, and not stomping on other people’s RP and intentionally or unintentionally railroading them.
After this conversation, Mike realizes he’s being “that guy,” and tells Simon he doesn’t want to go through with what they’ve planned. Simon tells him “no, we’ll still do it,” and then starts the session having Mike command his summoned dire wolf to drag Mary off while she’s asleep and tear her to shreds. Mary and Mike then end up having a conversation with several gods, where Mike’s god, Tyr, yells at him for being a dick. That’s all the consequence he gets for killing a party member. After the talk with the gods, Mary chooses to follow Lurue, as now Simon has seemingly forgotten that she wanted to follow Odin. They wake up and all is well, except for the fact that like I said before, we all roleplay pretty hard and now Mary’s character has PTSD from being literally torn to shreds at the hands of her companion’s self-righteous idealism. At no point did Mike OR Simon include her in discussions of what they wanted to do to “save” her character, and it was pretty obvious after it was all said and done that Mary was incredibly upset about the entire situation.
Here’s all of the reasons I think this is as bad as it is:
1: Simon used meta knowledge to make an in-game deity appear in a form they otherwise never would have presented themselves in, due to the fact that they have NO knowledge whatsoever of Mary’s specific wants. Even if Beshaba could read minds, Mary’s character would have no knowledge of Odin, what he would look like, or black birds are his symbol.
2: Mike refused to let Mary play her character the way she wanted to under threat of her character’s death.
3: Simon completely ignored the session zero conversation our group had and forced Mike to kill Mary’s character, even though Mike made it clear he didn’t want to do that anymore.
4: At no point Simon and Mike invite Mary in on the conversation to even just get her opinion on what they were going to do to “solve” her getting tricked into worshipping a CE god.
5: There were no negative repercussions for Mike’s character having killed another PC. The only person who was negatively effected by this incident was Mary and her character.
TLDR:
The GM used meta knowledge to trick our bard into worshipping a CE god for her cleric multiclass, then forced our LG paladin to have his animal companion drag her out into the woods while she was asleep and literally tear her to shreds.
This is one of a few real nightmare stories I have from this one campaign. This one campaign that I’m still a part of, but constantly debate leaving. This story is definitely the worst of them, but I’ll post the rest here eventually! Slight spoiler: all of the bad stories I have are stories where Mary ends up being the one to get fucked over by Simon or other players at the table.
Edit: took out double post.
https://redd.it/epm8q9
@r_dndgreentext