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What we can learn from Crocus City Hall, even if it's too early now ... Part 8

Part 1 https://t.me/RussiaJustice/122

So again:
https://t.me/RussiaJustice/133

a) PLEASE LESS BULLSHIT ABOUT BREIVIK! BREVIK KILLED MORE THAN 77 PEOPLE!
https://t.me/BreivikFacts/7

b) Plus IS NOT A LIFE SENTENCE!
https://t.me/BreivikDeathSentence/45
https://t.me/PrisonFacts/816

and this fake life sentence is JUST A WASTE OF MONEY WITH TONS OF NO SENSE COURT SESSIONS!
https://t.me/BreivikParole

c) Plus what is this bullshit of having access to internet? If he had access to internet, he would not complain about letters!
https://t.me/BreivikParole/95

d) Injured people are much more too!

What we need to learn from Crocus City Hall?

a) don't believe Europe propaganda based on bullshit!
https://t.me/RussiaJustice/122
https://t.me/DeathPenaltyMafia
https://t.me/AmnestyFacts
https://t.me/addlist/mhZg0973N14wMjMx

so don't believe every bullshit by Amnesty, Carolyn Hoyle, UN, John Bessler
https://t.me/CarolynHoyle
https://t.me/JohnBessler

b) mutilation is A NO GO!
https://t.me/RussiaJustice/100
and using force to hide governments failure is not ok at all!

c) sentences should be done with MUCH MORE NEUTRALITY!
https://t.me/RussiaJustice/20
https://t.me/RussiaJustice/39
and correct @DeathExecutionMethod

No matter if related to death penalty, life sentence or whatever!

d) no one is saying we need to implement death penalty for terrorism (especially related to ☪️!).
https://t.me/RussiaJustice/29
https://t.me/RussiaJustice/39

e) homicide is not synonym of death penalty!
https://t.me/RussiaJustice/129

f) don't forget other crimes and all other tabu topics behind that! like human rights related to prisoners or whatever! Is much more complex than "death penalty"!
https://t.me/AmnestyPropaganda/94

g) what do you mean with torture? It's a much more complex topic than death penalty!
https://t.me/RussiaJustice/41
to
https://t.me/RussiaJustice/100

h) stats are shit!
https://t.me/RussiaJustice/131

i) never forget ethical dilemma

What we can learn from Crocus City Hall, even if it's too early now ... Part 8

Part 1 https://t.me/RussiaJustice/122

So the real ethical dilemma question is "is more worse a innocent sentenced to death or 30 innocent killed by no death penalty for example???" Is 1 over 30 more important??!

YES; it's an ethical dilemma! Don't consider just "the poor 1" if you ignore "the poor 30!"
https://t.me/AmnestyOneToOne/68
https://t.me/AmnestyOneToOne/69

Plus don't think that just because the prisoner is getting life sentence, he lives better than with a death penalty!
https://t.me/MahsaAminiTelegram/149

При отсутствии смертной казни в уголовном законе страны все меры наказания как бы автоматически «понижаются», а судьи выносят более мягкие приговоры.

In the absence of the death penalty in the country’s criminal law, all penalties are automatically “lowered,” and judges hand down more lenient sentences.

BULLSHIT! France has no death penalty and still believe in life sentence for many crimes!
https://t.me/DeathPenaltyOneToOne/192

Perfect ... let we keep 1.5 years of prison for rape!
https://t.me/LawsTelegram/49

Why not removing prison at all? Would be much easier! Let we keep all "innocents"

Plus exactly what? How can you reduce sentences for animals crimes, if such things ARE ALREADY RIDICOULUS LOW!
https://t.me/MissionPlaneta/59

Так, террорист Брейвик, организатор и исполнитель взрыва в 2011 г. в центре Осло и нападения на молодежный лагерь, в результате чего 77 человек погибли и 151 ранены, отбывает пожизненное заключение в трехкомнатной одиночной камере и имеет доступ в интернет и спортзал.

Thus, the terrorist Breivik, the organizer and perpetrator of the 2011 bombing in the center of Oslo and the attack on a youth camp, as a result of which 77 people were killed and 151 injured, is serving a life sentence in a three-room solitary confinement cell and has access to the Internet and a gym.

PLEASE LESS BULLSHIT ABOUT BREIVIK! BREVIK KILLED MORE THAN 77 PEOPLE!
https://t.me/BreivikFacts/7

What we can learn from Crocus City Hall, even if it's too early now ... Part 7

Part 1 https://t.me/RussiaJustice/122

b)
https://t.me/RussiaJustice/131
so crimes change everywhere no matter if we have or not a death penalty! PLUS DON'T CHECK JUST CRIMES RELATED TO HOMICIDES! why you ignore rape crimes???! Why you ignore other type of crimes? Why you ignore crimes done to animals???! Consider all crimes, not just this shit of homicides!

Homicides IS NOT synonym of death penalty! Again ...
https://t.me/RussiaJustice/129
https://t.me/RussiaJustice/130

Would be time we go AWAY from this obsessions for homicides!

RAPE IS 100000x WORST THAN HOMICIDES! Let put this in your brain once at all! Homicide = the dude is death = no trauma at all for the dude! Only trauma for families, but this happens with all type of crimes!
https://t.me/DeathPenaltyOneToOne/151

c) “If you kill a murderer, the number of murderers will not change.” what is this shit??! and what about the number of victims???! what about the number of people doing suicide due to this criminal??? what about the number of people getting injured by another crime from this dude!!!

Plus if you kill a murder, the number of murder WILL CHANGE! because the number of murders continue to increase! no matter what happens to this dude!

Факт присутствия в любой – даже в самой совершенной – судебной системе возможности судебной ошибки при наличии смертной казни означает перспективу лишения жизни невиновного человека, делает эту меру наказания неприемлемой.

The fact that in any - even the most perfect - judicial system the possibility of a miscarriage of justice in the presence of the death penalty means the prospect of depriving the life of an innocent person and makes this measure of punishment unacceptable.

We already talked about that!
https://t.me/DeathPenaltyOneToOne/167
https://t.me/DeathPenaltyOneToOne/355

Plus the real ethical dilemma question is "is more worse a innocent sentenced to death or 30 innocent killed by no death penalty for example???

What we can learn from Crocus City Hall, even if it's too early now ... Part 5

Part 1 https://t.me/RussiaJustice/122

1988‒2002 UN study ...

Well this is bullshit and we already talked about before!
https://t.me/AmnestyOneToOne/97
to
https://t.me/AmnestyOneToOne/104

Not only this contains GOOD INFORMATIONS IGNORED BY AMNESTY, but even bullshit facts by Carolyn Hoyle
https://t.me/CarolynHoyle/92

So this is the best example HOW AMNESTY IS JUST PROMOTING BULLSHIT WORLDWIDE! even in Russia! They just check the shit they want and SKIP ALL OTHER INFORMATIONS! Obviously they don't verify anything! WE CLEARLY STAND AGAINST AMNESTY BULLSHIT! and it's time to stop this crime of bullshit to governments and UN!
https://t.me/AmnestyFacts
https://t.me/addlist/mhZg0973N14wMjMx

Until Amnesty start to share real facts, they have NO RIGHT anymore to promote bullshit!
https://t.me/LawsTelegram/133
https://t.me/LawsTelegram/143

Plus let we remember IS NOT JUST ABOUT REDUCING NEW CRIMES BY NEW PERSON! but even reducing new crimes by the same criminals!
https://t.me/AnimalAbuseDeathSentence/43
https://t.me/RussiaJustice/34

При исследовании статистики преступности давно установлено, что количество убийств и иных тяжких преступлений в любой стране на протяжении длительного времени остается приблизительно одинаковым, иногда даже снижается, несмотря на наличие или отсутствие в ней смертной казни. Как говорил Уинстон Черчилль, «если убить убийцу, число убийц не изменится».

When studying crime statistics, it has long been established that the number of murders and other serious crimes in any country remains approximately the same for a long time, sometimes even decreasing, despite the presence or absence of the death penalty in it. As Winston Churchill said, “If you kill a murderer, the number of murderers will not change.”

a) stats are SHIT!
https://t.me/RecidivismFacts/183
to
https://t.me/RecidivismFacts/203

b) crimes are not related to death penalty! and there is no way to show that with science at all!

What we can learn from Crocus City Hall, even if it's too early now ... Part 5

Part 1 https://t.me/RussiaJustice/122

So again we DON'T SUPPORT this idea that if someone kill someone he get 30 years for example, if someone is causing disability to another there is 0 years prison!
https://t.me/CrimeExamples/45

It's time to stop this shit! If you do racial terrorism and you fail, like the 🇮🇹 terrorist, YOU DESERVE THE SAME SENTENCE LIKE BREIVIK (but without shitty 🇳🇴 laws!)
https://t.me/BreivikDeathSentence

Но и оно нивелируется наличием наказания в виде пожизненного заключения.

But it is also offset by the presence of a punishment in the form of life imprisonment.

Like said we support both death penalty OR life sentence + assisted suicide option after 10-20 years!

but let we remember that if we talk about life sentence! we need to respect human rights of homeless too! So we cannot give priority to criminals over homeless, by saying death penalty is cruel, while you GIVE A SHIT TO HOMELESS AT ALL!
https://t.me/DeathPenaltyCruel
https://t.me/AmnestyOneToOne/74

So again, everyone can do what they want, but NEVER FORGET POOR PEOPLE! no matter if you do life or death penalty! If you do life sentence, this is much worse! because you give a shit per default and you give a shit another time doing life sentence!
https://t.me/EthicalDilemmaHumanRights/137

and let we remember that putting innocent in prison is the same!
https://t.me/ShittyDeathSentences/178

Может ли смертная казнь помочь в борьбе с преступностью? В 1988‒2002 гг. под эгидой ООН проводилось исследование, которое показало, что никаких доказательств того, что угроза смертной казни имеет сдерживающий эффект для потенциальных преступников или больший эффект, чем пожизненное заключение, нет.

Can the death penalty help fight crime? In 1988‒2002 A UN-sponsored study found that there was no evidence that the threat of the death penalty has a deterrent effect on potential criminals or any greater effect than life imprisonment.

BULLSHIT see next post

What we can learn from Crocus City Hall, even if it's too early now ... Part 4

Part 1 https://t.me/RussiaJustice/122

c) so death penalty doesn't directly REMOVE a crime! we already said that with Breivik too!
https://t.me/AndersBehringBreivikTelegram/768

and this is why we apply the restriction of human rights!
https://t.me/RussiaJustice/70
TO PREVENT POSSIBLE CRIMES! No one know if such dude will redo or not the crime! but the risk is too high to give them a parole!
https://t.me/RussiaJustice/10

and let we remember the crime is NOT just doing the same crime, but even for example KILLING PEOPLE during the escape or other things!

Допуская смертную казнь даже в виде исключительной меры наказания, надо понимать, что область ее применения всегда и везде имеет тенденцию к расширению https://perma.cc/KS56-RGMH

By allowing the death penalty even as an exceptional measure of punishment, one must understand that the scope of its application always and everywhere tends to expand.

Sorry but NOPE! if you implement a death penalty for mass killing (for example over 5 people) you don't use that for people that kill 4 people! or rape 5 girls and all 5 girls do suicides! Yes, the dude killed 5 girls, but is NOT mass killing! This is death penalty to rape! so another thing!

Собственно, единственное основание, по которому многие люди считают необходимым использование смертной казни, ‒ это возмездие за наиболее жестокие преступления, в частности за убийство.

In fact, the only reason why many people consider it necessary to use the death penalty is retribution for the most brutal crimes, in particular murder.

🙅‍♂️ you can kill 0 people and you would get a death penalty for terrorism or hate crimes! IS NOT BASED ON MURDER AT ALL!
https://t.me/DeathSentenceFAQ/293
https://t.me/CrimeExamples/118

Crocus City Hall with 0 deaths because they failed the terror attack? Same death penalty!
https://t.me/RussiaJustice/80

Homicides is the best example WHY WE DON'T NEED TO IMPLEMENT DEATH PENALTY FOR ALL CRIMES!

What we can learn from Crocus City Hall, even if it's too early now ... Part 3

Part 1 https://t.me/RussiaJustice/122

Ok, let we continue after we discovered how LinkedIn is supporting mafia bullshit science!
https://t.me/RussiaJustice/124

Even by having a neutral point of view! and this is a decision that Russia need to take, means do they want to implement that? For which crime? In which cases is not ok? ... etc!

We are NOT saying Russia need to implement death penalty, if they don't want that! We are saying that Russia need to recheck facts AND DON'T LISTEN TO EU PROPAGANDA! because 🇪🇺 is just full of fake science related to crimes!


So again:
https://t.me/RussiaJustice/123

d) like said, such things don't depend just on death penalty yes or no!
https://t.me/AmnestyFake/363
to
https://t.me/AmnestyFake/384

Don't be ignorant like Amnesty! Otherwise death penalty ban would reduce car accidents!
https://t.me/AmnestyPropaganda/93

Можно было бы согласиться с тем, что после ухода в прошлое принципа кровной мести смертная казнь могла бы быть полезной, если бы была способна устранить большее зло, чем является она сама, либо если бы она могла противостоять деяниям, приносящим наивысший вред обществу, государству или человеку.

It might be agreed that, after the principle of blood feud has become a thing of the past, the death penalty could be useful if it could eliminate a greater evil than itself, or if it could counteract acts that bring the greatest harm to society, the state or to a person.

a) death penalty is not an act of revenge!
https://t.me/RussiaJustice/35
https://t.me/RussiaJustice/34

b) death penalty is not blood, because there is no blood at all! Is assisted suicide if we don't apply like shit!
https://t.me/DeathPenaltyCruel/92
https://t.me/DeathExecutionMethod

We don't 🪓 people! like Russia is doing with 👂! (let we remember that we stand for death penalty when you do mutilation!
https://t.me/RussiaJustice/100)

c) death penalty not necessary remove a crime! See next post

Well, we need to update the list of people and organisations that stands for propaganda WITHOUT REAL SCIENCE AND FACTS!
https://t.me/DeathPenaltyIgnorance/211

LINKEDIN STANDS FOR PROPAGANDA! and the EU mafia behind similar topics and they show that exactly today by banning without warning the channel about death penalty facts in Russia!

Even if we talk about pro and contras, this means even the mafia available in Russia!

But sure they read ANYTHING of what has been written and cited!

So Linkedin is going against human rights laws too!

LINKEDIN IS GOING AGAINST AT LEAST 3 🇨🇭LAW ARTICLES! https://perma.cc/VX6K-4LWR

Art. 20 Academic freedom
Freedom of research and teaching is guaranteed.

You are not promoting research by banning research! remember that! and promoting bullshit research!

Art. 17 Freedom of the media
and
Art. 16 Freedom of expression and of information

Just another example how basic human rights of UN are NOT respected at all! like we said 1000x time before!
https://t.me/HumanRightsChecklist/255

Such universal rights are just a JOKE! where politicians / governments etc. keep eyes closed continuously! Such definitions need to be rewritten completely and after that someone NEED to control that they get respected! because writing something and giving a shit doesn't help at all!
https://t.me/IgnorancePeople/7

LinkedIN is going against Article 19 of United Nations too!

Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression (in this case is science!); this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers.

LinkedIN is going against article 26 of UN too!

Everyone has the right to education = means getting scientific informations too! https://perma.cc/8JC9-Q2HZ

What we can learn from Crocus City Hall, even if it's too early now ... Part 2

Part 1 https://t.me/RussiaJustice/122

So the dude is writing history and we need to be honest WHO GIVES A SHIT TO HISTORY! We all know that death penalty in the past have been done with shit!
https://t.me/DeathExecutionMethod
https://t.me/ShittyDeathSentences

Yes, even death penalty for abortion is SHIT!
https://t.me/BreivikSex/4

When in reality ABORTION IS AN HUMAN RIGHT!
https://t.me/EmpathyTelegram/50
https://t.me/BreivikSex/89

and abortion should be allowed near assisted suicide and death penalty in the 5-package of human rights!
https://t.me/AmnestyPropaganda/94

but obviously related to death penalty everyone can choice if doing that, or implementing life sentence without parole + assisted suicide after 10-20 years!
https://t.me/DeathPenaltyOneToOne/387

So we skip this history part at all! because history is important in some things, but not always ...

По оценкам экспертов ООН, приговоров к смертной казни в СССР выносилось больше, чем в любой другой стране, что, однако, никак не повлияло на снижение уровня преступности.

According to UN experts, more death sentences were imposed in the USSR than in any other country, which, however, had no effect on reducing the crime rate.

a) how did such death penalty got applied? with which method? after how many years? Who where the prisoners?

b) related to which crimes?

c) we have currently no time to verify such things ... (even because 🇷🇺 websites don't work at all!), we maybe will do that later, but the UN said exactly same bullshit related to 🇺🇸, 🇦🇺 and other countries!!!
https://t.me/DeathPenaltyOneToOne/332

UN that is based on the bullshit Amnesty is saying
https://t.me/LawsTelegram/133
or Carolyn Hoyle (which is still 1000x better than Amnesty, but ...)
https://t.me/CarolynHoyle
or John Bessler
https://t.me/JohnBessler
or ...
https://t.me/DeathPenaltyIgnorance/211

d) like said, such things don't depend just on death penalty yes or no!
https://t.me/AmnestyFake/363

What we can learn from Crocus City Hall, even if it's too early now ... Part 1

First, would be cool if 🇷🇺 gov websites would work! since we try to read things, but they simply don't work = we cannot read anything ...

Before making the list, let we do another 1:1 with science and facts about the death penalty! Remember, science IS AVAILABLE in the cited posts! we don't rewrite again what we posted weeks / months ago!

Лозунг о введении смертной казни, по мнению сторонников данного подхода, отвечает настроениям и ожиданиям нашего общества, и эту тему нужно «глубоко проработать» https://perma.cc/KS56-RGMH

The slogan about introducing the death penalty, according to supporters of this approach, meets the mood and expectations of our society, and this topic needs to be “deeply studied.”

DEATH PENALTY OR JUSTICE IS NOT BASED ON FEELINGS! LET WE REMEMBER THAT AGAIN!
https://t.me/RussiaJustice/121
https://t.me/FactsReality

"to be “deeply studied.”
YES, but with FACTS AND SCIENCE! (and neutrality! = showing all + and - from multiple perspective) not propaganda, opinions and bullshit!
https://t.me/DeathPenaltyOneToOne
https://t.me/AmnestyFacts
https://t.me/addlist/mhZg0973N14wMjMx

exactly like Amnesty is doing!
https://t.me/AmnestyPropaganda/94
https://t.me/AmnestyPropaganda/93
https://t.me/AmnestyShit/116

and other dudes are doing
https://t.me/DeathPenaltyMafia

without even sharing any type of science at all! if not their bullshit propaganda! (that we have already verified!)

and most important READ SUCH THINGS! instead of skipping all infos and saying "we don't agree" WITHOUT even KNOWING what has been written or cited! so the classic social network usage of people, no matter about which topic!
https://t.me/SocialNetworkFacts/4
https://t.me/SocialNetworkFacts/6
https://t.me/SocialNetworkFacts/7

Again, NO IGNORANCE PLEASE!
https://t.me/EthicalDilemmaHumanRights/116
https://t.me/SocialNetworkFacts/9

See next post

Putin and Crocus City Hall 🤦‍♂️

From one side 👍 that is not soft like 🇪🇺, from the other side how much bullshit he is saying ...

Investigations should happen "neutral", when in Russia such things doesn't really happen in neutral way ...
https://t.me/MoscowTerrorAttack/33

Russia, solution for the conflicts 🤦‍♂️ when Russia is a source of conflicts! No matter if in 🇺🇦 or in Arctic!
https://t.me/MissionWillowProject/17

Приговорить террористов, совершивших атаку на концертный зал «Крокус Сити Холл», к смертной казни невозможно, поскольку такое наказание не предусмотрено соответствующей статьей Уголовного кодекса, пишет в телеграм-канале сенатор Андрей Клишас https://perma.cc/P4G2-22YQ

It is impossible to sentence the terrorists who carried out the attack on the Crocus City Hall concert hall to death, since such punishment is not provided for in the relevant article of the Criminal Code, Senator Andrei Klishas writes in his telegram channel.

Full message https://perma.cc/TE5J-4H2U

Doesn't matter, we can implement other types of death penalties for the future!
https://t.me/MoscowTerrorAttack/43
or even enabling the same sentence for future attacks! doesn't matter if right wing terrorism or whatever!
https://t.me/DeathSentenceFAQ/276
https://t.me/BreivikDeathSentence/65

The senator noted that it is also impossible to impose capital punishment for pedophiles (for the same reasons). The death penalty is provided for in five articles of the Criminal Code, the senator added, cases on them are considered by juries. This:

Part 2 Art. 105 (qualified murder);
Art. 277 (attack on the life of a statesman or public figure);
Art. 295 (attack on the life of a person conducting justice or preliminary investigation);
Art. 317 (attack on the life of a law enforcement officer);
Art. 357 (genocide).

Remember, laws CAN BE CHANGED! You need to change for the future!
https://t.me/DefenceTelegram/1912
https://t.me/DefenceTelegram/1914

EVERYTHING CAN BE CHANGED! if there is a motivation to change!
https://t.me/DeathPenalty